Tuesday, February 12, 2008

From Punctuation to Pragmatism

Here are some more of the great comments that have been submitted. I urge Scoop readers to review all of the comments at the end of each section. It seems that our "grammarians" have made peace, but still differ on many points. This is a great topic for debate! Please share your views... and we all promise not to judge you on grammar and punctuation.


Readers offer the following:

I apologize that you think I was insinuating anything about your intelligence. I just really thought that the apostrophe thing was a sly dig at Mr. Obama's heritage. I apologize that I was incorrect about that.

For the record, the second comment about Bill O'Reilly was not mine. Why am I voting for Obama, other than the simple fact that I have democratic leaning anyway and I don't care for Mrs. Clinton? If you're historically Republican, I don't guess I can sway your vote on issues that are important to me such as abortion rights, gay marriage, or the war in Iraq. You ask for the positive points of his campaign which might sway your votes. It IS the positivity of his campaign that makes me want to vote for him. Green? Yes. I think that is part of his appeal.

I think all of the other candidates have been tainted by their politics over the years. I have been ashamed of our leadership for the last eight years. Obama is someone who excites me and inspires me. Do I have a point by point presentation of his policies to sway you? Sure don't. I think politics in recent years have been very divisive, and I look to him as someone who can unite our country. I'm sure you think that is a superficial and fluff answer, but that's it for me. Again, I do apologize for the brouhaha over the apostrophe.


Thanks for your take on the positives of Obama's campaign. We do disagree on basic issues such as gay rights and abortion. I know it may sound old-fashioned, but I believe God intended for there to be a man and a woman in a love relationship. I would never outwardly cause dissention or hate to anyone, even if they are gay. But at the same time, in my heart, I cannot believe it is all ok. And abortion -- I believe there are only a select few instances where abortion could be a viable option. However, I do believe it is time to pull out of Iraq, we have wasted enough American money and lives there.

The most important thing about all of this is we are so very fortunate to live in a country where we can all have our own ideas and beliefs, voice them, and then make our own decisions. I guess that out of all the candidates Huckabee appeals most to my personal convictions and religious beliefs. Maybe I'm wrong and living in the ancient ages, but it's how I feel.


sister38701 said...

"Now that we have been over that point repeatedly (at nauseum), can you please highlight the positive points from Obama's campaign which may sway votes to his side?" It's AD nauseum, not AT.

And you can visit www.barackobama.com to read about his stand on many issues. The clincher for me was a commercial that I heard (I was standing in another room, and raced to see who the commercial was for) in support of some changes and improvements in our system of educating our children.

Excerpts are below:

Reform No Child Left Behind: Obama will reform NCLB, which starts by funding the law. Obama believes teachers should not be forced to spend the academic year preparing students to fill in bubbles on standardized tests. He will improve the assessments used to track student progress to measure readiness for college and the workplace and improve student learning in a timely, individualized manner. Obama will also improve NCLB's accountability system so that we are supporting schools that need improvement, rather than punishing them.

Make Math and Science Education a National Priority: Obama will recruit math and science degree graduates to the teaching profession and will support efforts to help these teachers learn from professionals in the field. He will also work to ensure that all children have access to a strong science curriculum at all grade levels.

Address the Dropout Crisis: Obama will address the dropout crisis by passing his legislation to provide funding to school districts to invest in intervention strategies in middle school - strategies such as personal academic plans, teaching teams, parent involvement, mentoring, intensive reading and math instruction, and extended learning time.

Expand High-Quality Afterschool Opportunities: Obama will double funding for the main federal support for afterschool programs, the 21st Century Learning Centers program, to serve one million more children. Expand Summer Learning Opportunities: Obama's "STEP UP" plan addresses the achievement gap by supporting summer learning opportunities for disadvantaged children through partnerships between local schools and community organizations. Support College Outreach Programs: Obama supports outreach programs like GEAR UP, TRIO and Upward Bound to encourage more young people from low-income families to consider and prepare for college.

Support English Language Learners: Obama supports transitional bilingual education and will help Limited English Proficient students get ahead by holding schools accountable for making sure these students complete school. Recruit, Prepare, Retain, and Reward America's TeachersRecruit Teachers: Obama will create new Teacher Service Scholarships that will cover four years of undergraduate or two years of graduate teacher education, including high-quality alternative programs for mid-career recruits in exchange for teaching for at least four years in a high-need field or location.

Prepare Teachers: Obama will require all schools of education to be accredited. He will also create a voluntary national performance assessment so we can be sure that every new educator is trained and ready to walk into the classroom and start teaching effectively. Obama will also create Teacher Residency Programs that will supply 30,000 exceptionally well-prepared recruits to high-need schools.

Retain Teachers: To support our teachers, Obama's plan will expand mentoring programs that pair experienced teachers with new recruits. He will also provide incentives to give teachers paid common planning time so they can collaborate to share best practices.

Reward Teachers: Obama will promote new and innovative ways to increase teacher pay that are developed with teachers, not imposed on them. Districts will be able to design programs that reward accomplished educators who serve as a mentor to new teachers with a salary increase. Districts can reward teachers who work in underserved places like rural areas and inner cities. And if teachers consistently excel in the classroom, that work can be valued and rewarded as well. Higher Education Create the American Opportunity

Tax Credit: Obama will make college affordable for all Americans by creating a new American Opportunity Tax Credit. This universal and fully refundable credit will ensure that the first $4,000 of a college education is completely free for most Americans, and will cover two-thirds the cost of tuition at the average public college or university and make community college tuition completely free for most students. Obama will also ensure that the tax credit is available to families at the time of enrollment by using prior year's tax data to deliver the credit when tuition is due.

Simplify the Application Process for Financial Aid: Obama will streamline the financial aid process by eliminating the current federal financial aid application and enabling families to apply simply by checking a box on their tax form, authorizing their tax information to be used, and eliminating the need for a separate application.

To the Huckabee supporter. Thank you for your response. I agree with Eyes Wide Open, I don't agree with you and don't intend to change your mind on basic issues, but I can also see where you are coming from and obviously support your right to vote for whose ideals are closest to yours.
I actually can appreciate Huckabee in this race because I think he still stands for more change than what McCain represents as far as Republicans are concerned. I actually liked McCain several years ago (when "anyone but Bush" was my political mantra) but fear that his leadership would be 4 or 8 more years of the same. No change in Iraq except for the death toll, and no change in healthcare.
Healthcare is a huge issue for me right now, and I don't know what the solution is, as long as the candidate is willing to admit a need for change, that's better than nothing. I don't see it as a big issue for McCain. Unfortunately, he has such a huge lead on the Republican side that I think he will be your candidate.

The Obama campagin points outlined above are very interesting, especially to educators. I am in healthcare and I wonder how he will provide universal healthcare? If anyone has heard, let me know. I did search for it, but only found that he was in favor of the initiative.

And, by the way, to those of you who attempt to intimidate others by pointing out their spelling or grammatical shortcomings, shame on you. This is an avenue where everyone (no matter how well they spell or type) can express their opinions. So, come on folks, be a grown up. Why make such a huge ordeal out of something so trivial? There is a lot more to discuss here than a lesson in grading an English assignment.

Thanks to all. Let's hear what you think!


Anonymous said...

I hear promises that cost money. People, we are trillions!!!!! in debt!
I want to hear about cutting and get our debt paid off!!!

Most people think the Federal Government makes money and just gives it away and give grants for everything under the sun. The money comes from taxpayers! The Federal Government has no money, it is broke! They can print it, that is what is wrong with the economy now! Ask your representative about borrowing 161 billion dollars (probably from the Chinese) so that people will spend it to stimulate the economy. Makes absolutely no sense. It is time to think about the next generation and their 9 trillion dollar debt, it is not going away!!

Vote for the candidate that will cut! Anybody know of one?

Anonymous said...

If I wanted to point out trivialities, I'd be correcting the grammar on the blog. I'm not. I simply pointed out that the INTENTIONAL use of the apostrophe was a slam on Obama. The writer is aware of the intent, whether he/she admits it or not.

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Anonymous said...

I am the writer of the O'bama apostrophe mistake from hell. You are dead wrong, I did not imply, intend or even remotely think about an apostrophe and slamming somenone's heritage. You need to get a life. Scary that some folks are so focused on spreading lies and hate.

I am a well spoken, educated female who does not appreciate your comments. Everyone makes mistakes - even you. Yes, YOU! Do not post lies about my comments!

Anonymous said...

Man, the lady said the apostrophe was not intentional. Drop it. You are making a big deal out of nothing.

enough already said...

Obama, Obama, Obama, Obama, Obama, Obama, Obama, Obama, Obama, Obama....feel better....now we all know...

a, now drop it!!!!

Anonymous said...

I am almost afraid to post here after reading such negative remarks to people who mis-type names, but here goes. How will Obama pay for his big plans in the education arena? The college issue a loan (4K to students) will cost a fortune and we all know it is an impossibility. How does he propose funding these programs? Also, universal health care does not work. If you don't believe it, ask a Canadian about the state of healthcare in their country. Americans would be livid if they had to deal with the problems in obtaining medical care as the Canadians do. I know we all want to think we can create a completely equal society with wonderful education for all and exceptional health care for all, however, there are limits to what a government can do. It is essential that our government offers help to people but we must figure out some way to make those same people independent so that the government does not have to continue to provide for their living expenses/welfare. I am someone who had to accept food stamps for about one year in order to feed my kids while I attended college. I am not ashamed of that nor do I regret it; it was something that was necessary for me to accompolish my goal. But, I can't imagine anyone believing that long term aid is okay. So, Obama is preaching a good game with his plans, but he must tell us how he will reach these goals. It costs money!

Anonymous said...

Three words on how it will be funded!! YOUR SOCIAL SECURITY

Anonymous said...

I confess I have reservations about putting this topic forward but it is my hope that this blog really is a great place where all issues can be discussed openly and everyone can bring their opinions to the table for the better understanding of others. One contributor referred to Jesse Jackson and Al Sharpton those who "preach hate and reverse discrimination." I have always understood racism to be preaching the superiority of one race over the other and seek to improve the livelihood by compromising the rights and freedoms of another. I don't see any such statement coming from either of these gents, instead they seek to bring attention to equal rights. Isn't that something we can all support? If they were organizing an event or march in my town I would be first in line to sign my name on the dotted line to participate. I would do this to join others to make a show of force for the number of people that are against discrimination ... of any kind.

Do I agree with everything that ever came out of their mouths? No. Key example would have been recently when Sharpton asked for the TV anchor to be fired. She had already apologized. Tiger had already accepted. A simple statement from Sharpton asking for everyone to give more consideration to there statements and the weight of words, would have been a more appropriate and powerful action. Asking for the firing was so out of proportion that it took a smudge of his credibility in my opinion.

But that said, I feel that referring Sharpton and Jackson as reverse discrimination tries to force their whole message into an "US vs THEM box" when the primary focus of their efforts is a higher road all together.

It seems more and more to myself that our city has a lot of enemies ... mostly forces that are outside Greenville that seek to suck more money our of our local economy. The more that we can unify, the better we can fight for a better tomorrow. The longer we find useless matters to divide us and fight over internally, the more the outside forces will get their way and we will have less and less say over what becomes of this place.

That is my opinion at the moment. I honestly value any other opinions. Is there something about Sharpton and Jackson I don't know? Share your thoughts.

Average White Guy said...

Equal right? If that was what they preached that would be great!! But as a white person, I see them wanting more then just equal rights as the black man now has (more then equal rights)! I do believe in equal rights, but you give a man a quarter and they want a dollar! I could give many many examples but I am better then that, as I do not want to offend anyone, if I was to state them I am sure I would be thought of as a racist for making the comments and that I am not.
But do you think Al Sharpton would have made such a big deal out of the statement that Don Imus made if the he was a black man? It wouldn't have even crossed Al's mind!

Many many more examples!
Equal rights would be a good thing if that is what they preached!
I hope Obama is more for Equal rights then those man are.

Anonymous said...

"Average White Guy" this is "I confess I have " ... for what its worth I am white as well. Please let me point out a couple of considerations. Again, I think that Sharpton comes down too hard at times ... he probably does so to a calculated extent to draw attention to his cause. The example you pull is his criticism of Imus and presumably if a black radio host used a similar slur for another race. My opinion? Well its in poor taste in any case but the minority-majority factors in big here. If Sharpton were asked about such a black radio host he would probably say that the comments were in poor taste. Would he come down harder on a majority picking on a minority .. yes, because slurs are bad in any case and but especially when picking on a minority group. Yes I know that there are arguments within augments about whether the punishment was appropriate or if Imus was a scapegoat but my point is that I don't blame Sharpton for paying more attention to this case than the hypothetical other.

Try another example. I live next door to black man and his family. One day I am in my yard when he drives up with a stars and bars license plate cover. What is he likely trying to communicate by choosing to put it there?

"I'm easy going"
"I take a light view of history"
"I humor people with these things on their trucks"

What do these messages mean to me? Well not much, maybe if I had an ancestor that died in the Civil war I would mention to him that I didn't like his humor.

Now what the situation were reversed and he were standing in his front yard and I had the plate? What message would he read off of me?

"I take a serious one sided view of history"

"I know that this is offensive to any average black person and I don't care"

"I may or may not be in league with the other white people in the neighborhood against you"

"If your car breaks down don't bother asking me to take your kids to school"

Some would only look at the surface of this and say "he puts the plate on his car,you put the plate on your ... that's equal isn't it? He shouldn't feel hurt."

But as you can see the message is totally different. I might be indignant but he would feel totally rejected and even threatened.

I won't take up for everything that has been said in the name of equality but I don't think that its fair to say that "they asked for equality and now just keep wanting more". When I recently went out to look over some land the landowner said to me and I quote "Its really nice around here, we don't have any black folks at all" somehow I don't suspect he would have said the same thing to me or even willingly shown the land at all if I had a darker skin pigment.

I don't doubt that you have stories of white people being cheated and that they are true. But then so does every other race. So is this really about who's getting more of the cookie at the end of each week? My opinion is no. Its about how much we all work together as a community vs. how much we don't. Some will say that things are what they are and don't expect it to get better. Well I have lived in communities where race played a far lesser role (the current military comes to mind) and guess what, it was great! So I know it is out there, achievable, and the whole community is far happier. Some would point out that it is also much worse in other places. For sure, but that isn't very progressive attitude now is it?

I'm sure there are some major differences ( diplomatic speaking for one ) between Sharpton and Obama. But for any faults Sharpton has I think, based on everything I have ever heard the guy say, it is quite unfair to file him away as racist and not give some consideration to his message.

Anonymous said...

OK, I have a question concerning what I perceive to be racism, or reverse racism.

100 Black Men of the Delta (I think that is the name).

This organization is accepted here whole heartedly.

If there was a 100 White Men club, then all he** would break loose.

Why is that? Please explain it to me.

Anonymous said...

I'm new to Greenville so maybe I don't understand, but why do all the white people send their children to private, white academies and then complain about an organization called "100 Black Men"?

Anonymous said...

They have website, or at least the SC portion does:

Looks like a good organization with very positive purpose. Any reason to think differently? My only question is if I can join *grin. I hope they would be good sports and let me in.

The reason is very simple: Minority-Majority

When you are a minority then you can start a magazine called Black Enterprise and for the most part, people will understand that you are trying to organize your minority to advance and stick up for itself in positive ways.

If a majority were to create .. oh, say White Enterprise, then a lot of people would be thinking "Um you’re already a majority, what are you trying to organize for? To pick on the minorities? ... That’s not cool."

As a majority you have to be a little more careful to mind your words and not seem overbearing ( or be overbearing, for that matter ). Simple as that.

Can these minority organizations become to cliquish and negative to the larger community? Yes with bad leadership. Same as any Lodge, Church, Shriner, Rotary ... and whatever else. But its not really fair to assume that they are from the start. The information that I'm seeing on the website looks very positive and civic minded. I say invite them out to participate in community events every chance we get and use there organizational strength to strengthen the community at large.

Average White Guy said...

OK, I have a question concerning what I perceive to be racism, or reverse racism.

100 Black Men of the Delta (I think that is the name).

This organization is accepted here whole heartedly.

If there was a 100 White Men club, then all he** would break loose.

Why is that? Please explain it to me.

My point exactly, Thank You!!

Average White Guy said...

If Obama can get the price of gas back down, I will vote for him!! Thats all he has to say!! hehehe

Anonymous said...

How about Al Sharpton, you ask??? Two words, Tawana Brawley. Explain that one. It is nothing but lies and deceit.


This story makes a good point about his character. And yes, I believe he is guilty of discrimination. Call it reverse if you like, but it is the same issue.
dis·crim·i·na·tion –noun 1. an act or instance of discriminating.
2. treatment or consideration of, or making a distinction in favor of or against, a person or thing based on the group, class, or category to which that person or thing belongs rather than on individual merit: racial and religious intolerance and discrimination.

Al Sharpton also announced yesterday that he would protest the Democratic party if they seat delegates from Florida or Michigan as it would hurt Obama's chances. If they go ahead, he will lead a march of protest. For a delightful photo of Obama and Sharpton embracing check this out ...

I hope that Obama is smart enough to distance himself from this man. He will definitely hurt him in the end.

Anonymous said...

To the person that is new to Greenville. All white people do not send their kids to private schools.I am white and my kids are in public school. But in the same breath the majority probably are in private schools.I think our system would be much better if private schools did not exist.

Anonymous said...

It is scary to think that Al Sharpton and Jesse Jackson are taken seriously in either the black or white communities. Both of these men are showmen... actors who know how to read lines and incite hatred and outrage. I see no resemblance between these two bafoons and Obama. Perhaps it's the "Reverend" in front of their names that they feel empowered by. After all, it is difficult to argue with scripture!

Anonymous said...

My kids go to "private" school becaus e of the educational opportunities and classes that they offer over public schools in this area. I went to public school. My children will be better prepared for college than I was because of the opportunities that their school offers.

Anonymous said...

I can't understand why Obama would want to associate with Al Sharpton or Jesse Jackson either, but he does. Sharpton is a crook and a liar. Google him and you will see story after story of his underhanded dealings.If you visit this link, you will see Al and Obama in a delightful embrace. He needs to get away from him. I believe Obama is in a different league.


Anonymous said...

One of the main issues people with more than one child take into account when relocating, is the area public schools. We will always have a hard time recruiting tax-paying people to this community if the only alternative is private school. I am sure more than half of the students in Washington School come from a middle class household that truly cannot afford that tuition or is creating a huge financial burden.
While white kids continue to go to private schools, the public school system will never improve because nobody truly cares for the rest.

Anonymous said...

Exactly, on the individual level people say "well this is better for my kid." But, at least if they are willing to truly honest, they know that they are hurting the system further by not participating.

On the national level the same goes for religious education. Citizens are fighting for more religous educaiton and viewpoints in the circulum. The problem is that they are also sending their kids to private Christian schools. So the awkward situation that is left is principals being asked to institute a set of values in the circulum that most of the parents of kids actually attending the school could care less about or disapprove of all together.

Anonymous said...

"Average White Guy" I thought I explained the latitude in naming an org 100 Black Men pretty well in the post before yours (due to someone else raising that question). Well at least we have the gas issue in common.

Average White Guy said...

You did, Thank you!

Anonymous said...

if i had to send my kids to public schools in greenville, then i and my tax dollars, would leave town. If others did the same, how would that help the city and the school system?

Anonymous said...

My problem with the viewpoints of what is wrong with the educational system in Greenville lies with those who emphasize it as a racial issue and not the value of what education the children receive from the public schools. So for all you well meaning citizens of Greenville who spot new people moving into the community and do this, stop telling them not to send their children to public schools because there are too many blacks there. That really turns my stomach!

Anonymous said...

I am a white person and am going to be sending my children to the private schools here. Yes, I do understand that I am not helping the system any by perpetuating this, but I will also be damned if I am going to sacrifice my kids' education to "make a point".

Anonymous said...

I agree with the comment above, and made the same choice for my children, in spite of being a product of the Greenville Public Schools. I graduated from GHS during a time when there were still lots of sharp teachers in the classroom. As far as Washington School goes, only about half (or less) of the student population actually lives within the city limits, so a return to the public schools for those students really wouldn't have much impact on the GPSD. The parochial school receives some Title II funds, and that's one reason you happen to see a few more brown faces over there. But if you are not Catholic---many WS students are Muslim, Hindu, Jewish, etc.---then WS is basically your only reasonable non-public and non-religion-based school available. And to say that the private schools are keeping the public schools from achieving their goals---well, that's giving them way too much credit. The private school is a very good one, but the test scores of maybe 300 kids (spread throughout several neighborhood schools) would not cause a signficant shift in the District's averages. There are teachers and administrators already in place within the public school system who have the ability to implement the programs necessary for success. The District has the taxpayers' money to fund those programs. Each child in the public school system has at least one parent or caregiver to ride his little behind and demand that he hit those books. The GPSD should stop looking for someone ELSE to come in and solve their problems.

Anonymous said...

"There are teachers and administrators already in place within the public school system who have the ability to implement the programs necessary for success."

What are the programs necessary for success?

Anonymous said...

Hey, my children attend Riverside and have for the last 7 years. One child has already graduated and he is attending college and doing great. So, don't toss all public schools into one giant failure.

I am a product of a private school and a former teacher. I was excited to have the opportunity to send my children to public schools. What I would like to know is why do people always say that their child will be better prepared for college and also have more opportunities in private school? I have just not found that to be true. My college son is living proof, and with another one about to graduate who has scored 22
initially on his ACT, I just don't think that's so terrible. And, based on personal experience, private school kids around here have LESS opportunities secondary to financial constraints for things like music, band, arts, etc.

I agree with the previous writer who said that some of the very people who send their kids to high priced private schools are struggling just to make ends meet. One reason our economy stinks so badly here. No money left for anything else. It also impacts professionals who we try to lure into our area - when they hear about the school issue, it is a big turn off. Wouldn't it be nice if we could just live like the rest of America and majority attend public school?

Melanie M. Tucker said...

If you'll look at www.generals.ws, you'll see that Washington School has a full range of opportunities in the arts. Additionally, it is a grantee of the Mississippi Arts Commission's Whole Schools Initiative, and is committed to integrating the arts into the curriculum.

Anonymous said...

To the writer who sends his/her kids to Riverside:
I think you completely get the point. Let me ask you something.
What do you think will affect more the psycho-social development of a child, to live in a household with stressed parents struggling financially or to go to public school?
I also agree with your Jeffersonian approach to education.
To Mrs.Tucker, will all due respect, I wouldn't use the word integration in the same paragraph with Washington School.

Anonymous said...

The above writer would do well to join the 21st century and pay a visit to the private school. Its student population more accurately reflects the WORLD population than he expects. The snide use of the word "integration" indicates a huge chip on the shoulder from years ago. Move past it.

Anonymous said...

(Above) Just based on the history of Washington School and why it was founded, I wouldn't be throwing around such flippant comments!

Anonymous said...

Washington school is not the only private school in this area. Why is it the only one being discussed when talking about private schools. If your going to talk about the private schools verus public then all need to be in the equation.

Average White Guy said...

I went to private schools the first few years of my grade school life, due to certain circumstances my sister and I where put into the GPSS.
There is a big difference! First My sister was grabbed on felt on her GPSS life. I learned very fast how I had to protect myself and how to fight!
The education there was low due to the fact the students were just out of control! Most of the teachers there for the job and not to teach and had bad attitudes.

Anonymous said...

With the exception of few local families, those muslims, hindus and jewish are probably the only ones that can afford WS tuition without breaking the bank.

Anonymous said...

It's interesting to note the continued resentment of the local private school(s)from a few uninformed citizens. I'm curious if these same folks feel the same way about---for instance---Ole Miss, with its segregated past and role in the civil rights movement. Or Mississippi State or USM or DSU or any other public university that formerly did not admit African-American students. No one thinks twice about that now because WE HAVE MOVED ON. I'm not aware that any of the private or parochial schools in our area has a policy that prevents anyone of any race from attending. As far as tuition goes, Washington School is quite a bargain if you look at the cost of academies in the Jackson/Madison area. The Catholic school's tuition is comparable. In fact, a non-Catholic pays considerably more to attend SJS. And speaking of the Jackson area, I don't hear anyone in the JPS fussing about Jackson Prep, Jackson Academy, St. Andrews, etc., hurting their school system. They have good and bad in a very large school district, but they have some EXCELLENT choices (Murrah, Power APAC, etc.) with great student success stories. Competent administrators and qualified teachers must surely make the difference.

Anonymous said...

It is clear that average white guy has not received a proper education.

Average White Guy said...

Ha, I guess I should have proof read that paragraph! That was pretty bad!