Sunday, September 13, 2009

Say It Ain't So, Ray!

Michael Arthur Newdow (born June 24, 1953) is an American attorney and emergency medicine physician. He is best known for his efforts to have recitations of the current version of the Pledge of Allegiance in public schools in the United States declared unconstitutional because of its inclusion of the phrase "under God". He also filed and lost a law suit to stop the invocation prayer at President Bush's second inauguration and, most recently, he filed a lawsuit to prevent references to God and religion from being part of President Obama's inauguration.

Newdow is an
atheist and an ordained minister of the Universal Life Church. In 1997, he started an organization called FACTS (First Amendment Church of True Science), which advocates strong separation of church and state in public institutions.
Personal background:

Newdow grew up in the
Bronx and Teaneck, New Jersey, from where his nominally Jewish family moved in 1960. He graduated from Teaneck High School. He told Brown Alumni Magazine that he can’t remember ever believing in God, saying, "I was born an atheist."
After graduating from high school, Newdow attended Brown University, where he received a Bachelor of Science Degree in Biology in 1974. He then attended the UCLA medical school, earning his M.D. in 1978. He has worked as an emergency room physician at numerous hospitals, and holds medical licenses in California and five other states.

Newdow later enrolled in the University of Michigan law school, earning a law degree in 1988. He took and passed the bar exam in 2002.
Litigation:

Pledge of Allegiance:

Main article: Elk Grove Unified School District v. Newdow
Newdow is best known for the lawsuit filed on behalf of his daughter against inclusion of the words "under God" in public schools' recitals of the United States' Pledge of Allegiance. The United States Court of Appeals for the Ninth Circuit found that the phrase constitutes an endorsement of religion, and therefore violates the Establishment Clause of the First Amendment to the United States Constitution. However, the decision was later overruled by the U.S. Supreme Court on procedural grounds, citing that Newdow did not have custody of his daughter and therefore did not have the right to bring suit on her behalf, nor did he meet the Court's prudential standing requirements to bring the suit on behalf of himself.

Newdow filed suit again regarding the same issue, but this time on behalf of three unnamed parents and their children. Citing the
precedent set by the Supreme Court in the course of Newdow's previous suit, U.S. District Judge Lawrence Karlton ruled that Newdow did not have standing to bring his lawsuit, but the other plaintiffs did have standing. Based on the previous ruling by the 9th U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals, the judge ruled that the pledge is unconstitutional when recited in public schools.
After the 9th circuit decision, Newdow received numerous death threats and other abusive messages on his phone answering machine. His daughter, then eight years old, was living elsewhere for her own safety.

In God We Trust:

In November 2005, Newdow announced he wants to have "In God We Trust" removed from U.S. coins and banknotes. In a November 14, 2005 interview with Fox News's Neil Cavuto, Newdow compared "In God We Trust" appearing on United States currency with racial segregation (specifically separate drinking fountains), saying, "How can you not compare those? What is the difference there? Both of them [whites and blacks] got equal water. They both had access. It was government saying that it's okay to separate out these two people on the basis of race. Here we're saying it's okay to separate two people on the basis of their religious beliefs."

In June 2006, a federal judge rejected this lawsuit, on the grounds that the minted words amount to a secular national slogan, and they do not dictate anyone's beliefs. Newdow stated that he would appeal the ruling.

Although, it should be noted that Aronow v. United States was decided on the same grounds in the United States Court of Appeals for the Ninth Circuit and the lower court was required to return the same ruling, likewise the Ninth Circuit does not traditionally overrule previous Ninth Circuit rulings.

On December 4, 2007, Mr. Newdow argued before a three judge panel of the Ninth Circuit to remove both "under God" from the Pledge of Allegiance (Roe v. Rio Linda Union School District), and "In God We Trust" from US currency.

In a 2006 interview on the day that the United States House of Representatives passed the Pledge Protection Act, Newdow told WERS-FM's David Goodman,[citation needed] "A few hours ago, the House of Representatives of the Congress of the United States of America voted 260 to 167 to completely gut the U.S. Constitution of its separation of powers and violate numerous other clauses because they thought it was important enough to keep 'under God' in the Pledge of Allegiance. I don't think people would've done that for our political heritage or anything else. They did it because they want God in their government because it stands for a religious view that they adhere to, and they want to see that religious view espoused by government, which is exactly what the Establishment Clause forbids."

Newdow also filed a lawsuit in
federal court after Franklin Graham gave the invocation at George W. Bush's 2001 inauguration. The lawsuit claimed that inaugural prayer was an unconstitutional endorsement of religion. It also was unsuccessful.

California textbook case:
Newdow also represents California Parents for the Equalization of Educational Materials (CAPEEM), a group that has filed a lawsuit against the officials of California Department of Education and the California State Board of Education. The lawsuit challenges the teaching of biblical events as historical facts and was brought upon by CAPEEM which was formed by Hindu parents in California.

Obama inauguration:

On December 31, 2008, Newdow and 17 other people, plus 10 groups representing atheists, sued Supreme Court Chief Justice John G. Roberts and others involved in the inauguration ceremony of Barack Obama. The first count of the suit sought to prevent the Chief Justice from saying "so help me God." The Constitution specifically defines only this single oath of office of 35 words, that do not include these four words.

The Associated Press ran several reports including one picked up by the Washington Post, Yahoo News and many other affiliates that inaccurately stated that the suit was an attempt by atheists to prevent the President from saying "so help me God", while the suit specifically states that the president is not a subject of the injunction, rather it is the Chief Justice.

In addition, in other counts was the demand to end all religious prayer at the inauguration based on the establishment clause of the first amendment, which he had sued to prevent in the two previous inaugurations unsuccessfully.
Federal District Judge Reggie Walton refused to grant Newdow's motion for a preliminary injunction on the basis that he, as a United States District Court Judge, did not feel he had the authority to issue such an order against the Chief Justice of the United States Supreme Court.
He also reasoned that the inclusion of such words is an exercise of the incoming President's right of free speech, although the president's right to express his private prayer in words of his choosing was specifically not challenged in the law suit.

Newdow later reported that he would not challenge the denial of his preliminary injunction motion, but will appeal the case through the appellate court.

Well, it seems that no one is willing to confirm that we have the real Dr. Newdow, but he certainly fits the profile. Ray would hire a three-legged dog if it would help him keep his dynasty alive... even if it goes against all of his bible-thumping beliefs!

But...let's not be to hasty to dismiss Newdow as a qualified ER doc. After all, we do support the separation of church and state and during my most recent visit to an ER, the last thing I was thinking about was the Pledge of Allegiance.

Whether your ER Doc is lesbian, Hindu or Atheist, if you are in crisis, you need a skilled physician to keep you alive, so personal belifes quickly becomes a "non-issue". We are in the 21st century and we need to be more tolerant of political and religious views.

When my heart stops beating, I will forego the interview of the person trying to revive me... in hopes that he/she won't ask me the same questions! At the end of the day we are all mortal beings, subject to the same rules of life and death... and we need to remember that!

Forthright

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Anonymous said...

Why would this clown come to work in Greenville MS.? money?; trying to hide from, what?; too many questions... no answers.

Anonymous said...

Oh, but of course DRMC DID a background check on him and ALL other employees...right?

But did we get a background
check on Ray...right?

And references from previous employors?

Anonymous said...

Mr forthright i respect your opinion about the matter of Mr. Newdows skills as a Medical Doctor. He may be a highly qualified Doctor, but i do not want anybody treating me, touching me or rendering care to me that does not believe in god or a god. I cant control if i am out cold and this man has to render care to me, but i promise you one thing once im coherent he will no longer lay a finger on me or render care. The problem with the world today is people like him that do not believe in god and are always trying to take religion away from the religious. I personally do not go around pushing religion on anybody nor she he go around tryin to push his ways on us. We do not need people like this around anywhere. I hope he goes back to where he came from and never graces the steps of this area again.

Anonymous said...

I am of the Baptist faith. I do however, have family members and friends that are Catholic, Methodist, Jewish and Church of God.

In the past, I have had co-workers that were Johovah's witnesses.

I respect their religion and they respect mine.

I personally do not know of anyone, nor do I associate with anyone that is an atheist. If I do have contact with someone that is an atheist, it's only because I am not aware of their "non-belief".

And as far as I know,I have not had an association of any one from the Muslim faith.

However, a few weeks ago, two Johovah's witnesses ladies knocked on my door. I answered. They introduced themselves and asked if they could come inside and talk to me about their religion.

I replied , "No, thank you, I'm a Baptist."

And, then the lady had the nerve to ask, "Do you mind telling me why we can't come inside?"

I replied, "You want people to respect your religion,
but, now, you need to respect my religion. Thank you."

And I closed the door in her face and would have slammed it on her big foot, if she had not moved it so quickly!

I was in my own house, minding my own business, not bothering a soul. She came knocking on my door, on my private property, and then wanted to argue with me.

I started to call the police.

Anonymous said...

To 3:21

What if you were admitted to the ER after a near fatal auto accident and the ER doc asks your family about your religious beliefs. They respond that you are a Christian of the Baptist faith, to which he responds, "Oh, I don't treat Baptists!"

So you die because of the religious intolerance of others and you believe this is preferable to being treated by an athiest?

If you would conciously refuse qualified treatment from an athiest, why shouldn't the athiest be able to refuse to treat you for your religious views?

If you are willing to die for your religious beliefs, then you are no different from the 911 suicide pilots. They too belived in THEIR god... however sick!

Anonymous said...

I also had the Johovah's witnesses come to my door.. T told them I was baptist, and started to close the door, The lady put her foot in my door way!!! Can you believe that!! I told her very brutely to get the crap out of my door,, I think that was very rude of her to do that!!

Anonymous said...

1. The doctor did not choose a religion.

2. The doctor did choose to become a licensed doctor.

3. All doctors take an oath that they must administer medical attention to all properly admitted patients.

4. Nurses also take the same or a similar oath.

5. The doctor is required by law to administer care to the properly admitted patient.

6. The doctor can not refuse treatment to a properly admitted patient.

7. The patient can refuse treatment, with the properly signed paperwork.

8. People can choose a religion

9. People do not choose illnesses.

10. Under certain private insurance policies, the patient can choose his doctor.

11. Hospitals do ask a patient's faith.

12. The reason hospitals ask about a patient's religion is because often, the patient is from out of town and away from their church and preacher.

13. The hospitals also ask if the patient would like a preacher of their faith to visit during their hospital stay. Again, because of out of towners. This is a courtesy.

14. Some religions do not believe in certain types of medical care.

15. My religous beliefs, my future death, nor I.. should never, ever be compared to the 911 pilots.

16. There is a difference between religous people and whackos.

17. Thank you for allowing me to put in my two cents worth.

Anonymous said...

This is a true story. You'll love it.

A man told me once that he heard a knock on his door one Saturday morning. He peeked out and realised that it was the Johovah's witnesses.

He had just awoken and of course, still in his underwear.

He opened the fridge, grabbed a beer, popped the top, stuck a cigarette in his mouth, lit it, and answered the door in his underwear and then he..uh...well, he passed gas, very loudly! :)

They left running and must have marked his house. He hasn't moved and hasn't seen a Johovah's witness
at his door in about 20 years.

Anonymous said...

the lengths you have to go to keep unwanted visitors away from your house--what a funny story!

Anonymous said...

Has there been any confirmation by any hospital employee that this is "the" Dr. Newdow of lawsuit fame?

Anonymous said...

Why isn't his name listed on the list of physcians serving DRMC on their website?

Has anyone called directory assistance to check about a local phone listing?

If the number is unlisted-which more than likely it is-
the operator will state that it's a
non-published number.

But, nowadays,people forego the land line phone for a cell phone, especially those that move around a lot.

Anonymous said...

Say it ain't so, Forthright!

Anonymous said...

The advantage of living in the Delta is that one is limited in their exposure to various religions.

Anonymous said...

Rumor has it that the Mayor told someone who works at the hospital that she wasn't going to pay ANYONE overtime concerning the water issue. Some Mayor.

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Anonymous said...

who said that he is a good doctor ?? he has no clue about modern medicine. this person still practicing the 70s medicine, Example, he is performing spinal taps all day long on kids with flu thinking it it meningitis !!! may be that was OK back then, but now NO NO. hospital says he just a locum!!
I don't care about any person's faith -if there is one, but I care about the experience of the doctors who treat your kids or your parents. I bet after few weeks he will sue us for discrimination. !!

Anonymous said...

Locum, short for the Latin phrase locum tenens, is a person who temporarily fulfills the duties of another. For example, a locum doctor is a doctor who works in the place of the regular doctor when that doctor is absent, or when a hospital/practice is short staffed. These professionals are still governed by their respective regulatory bodies, despite the transient nature of their positions.

Anonymous said...

Doc in the box, just like all of the nurses... rented! No one with a license wants to risk it at DRMC, so the best Al-fay can do is RENT. Shame on you Ray... what does the FBC think of your new hire?

Anonymous said...

Maybe Newdow can lead our next prayer at leadership, Ray Baby! You goof ball -- and, by the way, how's that NICU running? Ohhhhh...it's not!

Anonymous said...

Does Bill Schlutz know about Newdow? He is on the hospital board and a very fine Christian man. I'm certain that he is not aware of Newdow's questions of faith? He could confirm the employment at DRMC, also.

Anonymous said...

the np i know confirmed that it is "the" dr. newdow.

Anonymous said...

......"We are in the 21st century and need to be more tolerant of political and religious views."

The Southern Poverty Law Center has Greenville, MS. documented as having two 'hate' groups on their map, the New Black Panther Party and the Nation of Islam.
Both are black separatist groups. Black separatists typically oppose integration and racial intermarriage, and they want separate institutions-or even a separate nation-for blacks.Most forms of black separatism are strongly anti-white and anti-semitic and a number of religious versions assert that blacks-not Jews-are the Biblical "chosen people" of God.

Anonymous said...

i heard yesterday that dr newdow is a "rent-a-doc" and that his contract is up soon.

Anonymous said...

8:38 Tomorrow will not be soon enough!

Call Hilton and Morley said...

Someone call Hilton... he will know. Why can't we get a loaner CEO? Could we possibly do any worse? We should call "60 Minutes" and see if they want to do a story about "Athiest in the Bible Belt". It might put us on the map... at least before Heather becomes Governor!

Anonymous said...

Right. Call Hilton or either Bill Maddox...either will know. And then call "60 Minutes".

Go ahead and call John Grisham, too.The things that happen in Greenville, no one believes..might as well sell the "rights" to the story and make Greenville some money.THE mayor's trip to Washington, D.C. did not produce any money.

Anonymous said...

All John Grisham has to do is read this blog and he could write another great book that I am sure would turn into another great movie.

Anonymous said...

I AM AN EMPLOYEE OF DRMC AND THIS IS THE "DR. NEWDOW".

Anonymous said...

huh?

Anonymous said...

TO 4:20PM post:

Meaning you are Dr. Newdow

Or

Meaning that you work at DRMC and
that you confirm that THE
Dr. Newdow is employed at DRMC as well

Anonymous said...

Go to "Boil The Mayor Alert" below this post and continue reading and writing about the Mayor. The posts are very juicy & full of information.

Anonymous said...

One narrow-minded small town racist idiot wrote this comment here recently:

"The advantage of living in the Delta is that one is limited in their exposure to various religions"

With this kind of mindset, how can this area move forward?

Anonymous said...

Excuse me, you sorry, low-dow, lying sack of shi....!

I wrote the above quote and I"ll stand up for it. And if you can open your blind eyes, you'll see that there's a
L-O-N-G line forming behind me.

I am not narrow minded, nor a racist idiot. I believe what I believe and you , nor anyone else can take that away from me.

What you imply here, is that I should reject my own religion. For what... for another person's religion,.. or for no religion at all.

Ain't no way, you or anyone else, is going to get a lot "converts" here in the Delta. May be able to get some "convicts", but most certainly no "converts".

Let's see how this area moves forward with the mindset of your "convicts"!

Anonymous said...

Re: 7:07pm & 9:52pm

Why does one assume that a different religious denomination or atheist is even attempting to convert others? Are we so close-minded that we can't respect/understand another's religious views? Is it out of fear of possibly compromising our own beliefs that we belittle other religions. Then maybe your faith / beliefs aren't as conclusive as you think. How can one validate their own religious beliefs with absolutely no knowledge of other doctrines?

Rather than only looking at the differences in religious beliefs, why can't we look at the commonalities (there are many) and at least value and respect those attributes in our diverse religious beliefs.

Oh, and by the way 9:52pm, I don't think any religion, christian or non-christian would condone your verbal abuse of another person expressing an opinion. Why don't you pray on that awhile!

Sick of religious hypocrisy

Anonymous said...

The President of the United States
recently called someone a jacka..!

Talk to him about hypocrisy.

Condone his verbal abuse of another.

Anonymous said...

7:07PM

If I may ask, of what religious
faith are you?

Which religions do you feel need
more acceptance here in the Delta?

Anonymous said...

Compromise or reasonable doubt,in one's religion is the FIRST step towards converting to another's religion.

Anonymous said...

To 10:07

I don't agree that compromising leads to conversion. However, reasonable doubt often does. It is called searching for one's true faith. Generally, people stay in the same religious denomination of their parents. They have never attended or shown any interest in other religious denominations. Their faith is learned behavior, including prejudices and often the rigid beliefs that their religion is the only religion.

What is faith? Put simply:
1) Receptiveness to a concept
2) Accepting the concept mentally
3) Experiencing realization of that concept by heart, mind, and soul
4) Then total submission / surrender to those beliefs

If you truly believe heart, mind, and soul in your faith then compromise will not convert your beliefs but it will allow people of different religious beliefs to live together in respectful harmony.

In answer to 9:33am questions:
- Catholic (converted from Baptist)
- There have been very negative remarks about Jehova's Witnesses. Which religion will be criticized next?

Is it the religious beliefs or fanaticism people resent. There are fanatics in all religions. Some can get quite pushy.

To 9:11am: Obama has enough problems to deal with. Let's pray for him too.

Anonymous said...

Jehovah's Witnesses, and I must also add, the
Mormans, are both criticized for their "knocking on doors" style of "witnessing". They are very pushy and are tresspassing onto a person's private property to, yes, "push" their religious beliefs on others.The Catholics, nor Baptist do not do this. And frankly, I can't think of another religion that goes
"door to door".

Door to door salesmen are also
annoying, pushy, and always criticized for their "invasion". And you may as well throw in the
telemarketers, with this group, also.

No one on this blog has actually
criticized the Jehovah's Witness" faith, but many did have the guts to speak out about their intrusive behavior.

I have known a man for a very long time, whom converted from Baptist to Catholic. During the study of his classes, he was pulled aside, and the instructor of the class actually told him that Baptist were the hardest of all religions to convert to Catholicism because they asked too many questions! He also added that the
majority of all people do NOT believe in their respective religions 100%. Some things they agree with and some things they don't agree with.They average about a 70% belief in their particular religion's doctrines.

As a Baptist, would I be allowed to enter your church and take communion? If I did attend your church, would my prayers also be accepted? I would be praying directly
to God and not to a Saint, would my prayers be heard, according to the Catholic church?Would my total submersion baptistism be accepted? No, but I could go down to the alter, kneel,hold my crossed arms against my chest, and the priest would bless me.

Anonymous said...

Although, you are a Catholic,.. you are a "converted" Catholic, and not a "cradle" Catholic-one that is born into the religion, by their parents' faith. Whether you realize it or not, within the confines of your own faith, you are judged and viewed slightly inferior to "cradle" Catholics.

Sorry, but it is true, at least in the Delta.If you don't believe me, then get someone to ask around for you.You can't ask--they already now you are a "convert"!

Anonymous said...

To 9:52.....

Wow! Were those comments made by a Christian? Do you kiss your Bible with that mouth?

Some Christians give Christianity a bad name.

Anonymous said...

Some politicians give politics a
bad name.

Anonymous said...

Give them "hell" 9:52 post.

Stand up for your beliefs.

Anonymous said...

To: 12:57pm

So it is the pushy intrusion you resent, not the religion. Good for you!


Now, without starting a war on religions, let's correct some of the misconceptions about the Catholic religion.


Baptists and any other religious groups are very welcome to attend any Catholic Church. There are many that do attend Catholic services.

Your own religious beliefs prevent you from receiving the Catholic Holy Communion because, as a Baptist once told me, Baptists do not believe the consecrated bread and wine do become the body & blood of Christ, but you could certainly participate in a spiritual communion. Also, the Catholic Church uses real wine.

There are some non-Catholic religions that do attend Catholic services and receive Holy Communion with permission from the Church.

The Catholic religion does accept previous total submersion baptisms (that is the only type of baptism I have ever had).

Nothing wrong with receiving a blessing from anyone, be it Baptist, Catholic, etc. The crossing of the arms merely indicates to the priest that you are not receiving communion and would like to be blessed (totally voluntary). Kneeling is not necessary.

Of course, your prayers would be accepted in the Catholic Church! Whether or not they are heard depends on your relationship with God, not the Catholic Church!

Last, but not least, Catholics do most definitely pray directly to God.

Thank you for showing such interest in another's religion. My answers are not intended to convert but merely to inform and clarify. I too, had the same questions and misgivings about Catholicism. After a great deal of self-study, formal study, and understanding of Catholicism, I found that this particular religion best suited my own relationship with God. To each his own.


Signing off now

Anonymous said...

From a cradle Catholic to a converted Catholic (post 3:31pm) thank you so much for your very accurate explanation of Catholicism.

Anonymous said...

Dear 2:39 P.M.

Judged by whom? The only judgment that anyone should worry about is that of God. Slightly inferior? Pleeeaaase! Your congregation would be so proud to hear you say that, not to mention the priest.

Who would be more than slightly inferior....another religious affiliation?

Sorry, I agree with ll:25. This type of mentality is what prevents harmony in this community.

Anonymous said...

I am a Baptist and have attended the local Catholic church. I was very welcomed, however, I didn't
dare "dip my fingers into the Holy
Water", nor did I approach the alter for Holy Communion. I did kneel, REPEATEDLY! (LOL) with the parish members. This was a Christmas Mass service.I did feel "odd" not going to the alter,
and truly thought that everyone would think of me as being a heathen, but, I realized that God knew better than anyone sitting in that particular church about my relationship with HIM.

Anonymous said...

....The Catholic religion does except previous total submersion
baptisms.

O.K. That part's true. If you have a previous total submersion baptism,and are "converting" to
Catholicism, then it is acknowledged and accepted by the church.

But, if you are just a "John Doe
Public, non-Catholic, does the
church also accept or acknowledge
one's baptism in a different religion.

Anonymous said...

Catholic's believe that once baptised always baptised. If you become a Catholic then you receive the Sacrament of Confirmation confirming your baptism in Christ. People who have never been baptised will be baptised AND confirmed during their initiation into the Catholic Church.

Anonymous said...

And Baptists believe that once baptised always
baptised. But, my baptism is useless, unless I convert to Catholicism, according to Catholic doctrines?

Anonymous said...

To 5:49pm

Yes, they do acknowledge and accept Christian baptisms of different religions.

Anonymous said...

Thank you. And may God bless you.

Anonymous said...

What is the difference between The Lord's Supper, that Baptist partake in and the Catholic's Holy Communion?

Anonymous said...

6:14...your baptism in the Baptist Church is a Christian baptism and is accepted in the Catholic christian church. Both "religions" fall under the category of the CHRISTIAN faith. Both believe in Jesus Christ as Savior and Lord and in the Holy Trinity. God the Father. God the Son. And God the Holy Ghost. The Holy Trinity is a mystery of the Christian faith and will be revealed to us after death and resurrection into heaven by God.

Anonymous said...

Catholics believe that Jesue gave the apostles and their decendents the power to change wine and bread into His Body and Blood. At the Last Supper, Jesus said "Take this bread for it is My Body. Take this cup for it is My Blood." So, Catholics believe that ordained Catholic Priests are decendents of the original 12 Apostles and have the power given by Jesus at the Last Supper to change the bread and wine into the actual body and blood of Jesus. The Protestant Reformation was when all protestant religions broke off from the Catholic Church because of this belief and they did not want to acknowledge the Pope as the earthly head of the church.

Anonymous said...

It is the same ritual or ceremony, practiced by both religions. So, why can't a Baptist partake of this ritual
or ceremony in the Catholic church?

Anonymous said...

The Catholic church wants you to take RCIA classes to learn of the beliefs of the church and to fully understand that you are partaking of the ACTUAL Body and Blood of Jesus during Holy Communion. It is just a faith based process to become a Catholic. Call St. Joseph Church office and inquire of the "Why Catholic" classes as well as RCIA classes for non Catholics. It is very interesting to learn. There is no obligation to become a Catholic if you take these classes.

Humbug! said...

I don't belive that God has ever seen the inside of a chruch, nor does he care how, when or where you communicate with him. Man has invented all of these "details" and most organized religions are pure bunk! Everyone believes in THE god and we are all quite sure of it. God did not make "religions", man did! On which of the seven days did God "create" money and why are religions so obcessed with it? It is possible to be charitable without giving money to your church. My god doesn't need money, churches, rituals or "religions" and scoffs at those who do. My god believes in love for all, kindness to others, charity and grace. I believe that the true god is ashamed of all organized religions and their emphasis on money and personal "sacrifice". God put all of us here with brains to think and hearts with which to love. To divide ourselves into smaller segments is pure folly, led by greedy men who know nothing of faith!

Anonymous said...

To 6:32 & 6:50pm


Both are patterned after the Last Supper in the Gospels and participants communally eat the bread and drink the cup representative of the body and blood of Jesus. For the Baptists it is not a sacrament but it is symbolic of the body and blood of Jesus. Baptists do not believe in the Catholic doctrine of transubstantiation. The Roman Catholic Church teaches that once an ordained priest blesses the bread and wine of the Lord's Supper, it is transformed into the actual flesh and blood of Christ, though it retains the appearance, odor, and taste of the bread and wine. The Catholic Mass service is a perpetual re-enactment of the Last Supper. For Catholics the Holy Communion is not symbolic, it is the real presence of Christ.

Hope this has been helpful.

From the "Inferior" Catholic Convert

Anonymous said...

To 7:23pm

I certainly respect your views and will defend your right to believe and practice them! To each his own.

From the "Inferior" Catholic Convert

Anonymous said...

I have a famiy member that "converted". He said that some of the parish members shunned
him and made remarks about him not being a "cradle Catholic". This was very upsetting to him, because he was sincere and enthusiactic about his new found faith.
When he told me about it, I additionally was very upset.My remark to him was "Well, behavior like that is one of the reasons that you left the Baptist faith. Now what are you going to do". He replied, "I am going to continue being a Catholic." He remained a Catholic for about 20 years until his death. But, his remaining family, respecting his faith,(they were Baptist) did have a Catholic Mass for him....they just did not have it locally, after the earlier remarks that were made to him.

Anonymous said...

ALL prayers are heard, whether you are "officially" involved in an organized form of religion or not.
But, depending on your sincerity and
personal relationship with God
determines if they are answered or not.

Well, they are all answered,
just sometimes, we don't like how they are answered!

A regligious person in not confined to a particular faith or a particular church building.

Again, it's all about the personal
relationship with God.

Anonymous said...

Amen 8:21!!!

Anonymous said...

I would like to thank the Baptist family for honoring
their loved one and respecting their religion. I know that it was a sadden, painful time for everyone, but still the family did the right thing. I just hope and pray that the Catholic church also, did the right thing and made exceptions to their rules and regulations and allowed this family the much need participation that they needed during the loss of their loved one.Again, thank you and may God bless you.

Anonymous said...

I was born a Catholic 61 years ago.
I have never once heard of anyone
being shunned because they were a "converted catholic." Infact
I always was told by my family that
converted members were by far better church members because they
chose to become catholic and enriched their faith by learning all they could about the church.

Anonymous said...

What happened at Greenville high today?/ I heard two gangs had it out in the school

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Anonymous said...

I heard that parents were paticipating

Anonymous said...

participating....oops

Anonymous said...

huh! Are you saying that two gangs "got into it" at Greenville High and the parents were also,"in
on it"?

So, the gangs took their parents to school with them,
or did they call them on their "not supposed to have, will be taken away if caught with one" cell phones?

Has anyone called the school?

What time is dismissal time?

Find a student and ask them for the "low down".

Anonymous said...

The gang war started on Sunday in Strange Park. The police broke it up and just sent everyone home in spite of death threats from both sides. Too much paperwork for the cops to do on a Sunday afternoon, so it spilled over into the school on Monday. Could have been another Columbine, but we don't care do we Mayor? She would have been the first face seen on national television. Damn good press!

Anonymous said...

THE Shutupimthemayordontaskanyquestions would have been the FIRST person to run and hide in Florida behind Daddy's pants.

Anonymous said...

SHE runs to Florida during boil water alerts and immediately following press releases announcing
her divorce.

Anonymous said...

And then continually lies about the so called grant for $100,000 that she said she applied for but never did according to MS Dev. Authority.

Anonymous said...

Who gives a rats ass about HER divorce. Like she's the only one who gets divorced. That is totally not newsworthy. Read my lips....WE DO NOT CARE.

Anonymous said...

Has SHE shown anyone the dated copy of the grant
application? Everyone keeps copies of grants that they apply for,and usually all of the rough drafts, also. Someone needs to ask to see the copy!Also, are the council members signatures required for the original submitted copy and do they,the council members have to approve (by voting) all grants before submission. Also, was the supposedly grant submitted BEFORE the due date. If not, it was rejected!

Anonymous said...

8:38--It was ANOTHER opportunity to be on T.V. and in the newspaper!LOL

Anonymous said...

Only her signature is required on the grant. Council does not have to approve day to day operations of City Hall, that's her job as Manager. She cannot show a copy of the grant application because one does not exist.

Anonymous said...

Heeeeeere we go again: www.clarionledger.com Fighting students arrested in Delta

Anonymous said...

Joyce Parker needs to be sprayed in the face with pepper spray, then maybe, just maybe, she'll go home and leave the school alone. She is nothing but an interference and the only reason she does that is to make people think that she is actually "using" her grant money. She has NO ideas, programs, or iniatives of her
OWN. She 'busts up" in on ALL of the School meetings, uninvited-several times she has been asked to leave-and trys to steal their ideas. She does NOTHING for the schools. This has been going on for about ten years.

Anonymous said...

G'ville, LOVE IT OR LEAVE IT!!!
I chose to leave it.

Anonymous said...

I guess someone called DADDY and had the Clarion Ledger newspaper article remove. HU$H MONEY!

Anonymous said...

removed--opps!

The new rules said...

For all of you that may not know the new rules, here they are:
If you disagree with a person of color, it is racially motivated. If a person of color diagrees with a person that is not a person of color it is that that person not a person of color is wrong and is a racist.
Now get used to it and do the best you can to have a meaningful discusion with your fellow towns folk.
Thank you and have a nice day.

New rules update said...

Oh, by the way, White is NOT a color.

Anonymous said...

Thank goodness for Washington School! I'm so glad I don't have to send my kids to GPS.

Anonymous said...

Washington school is just as bad but in a different way. Those of you that have kids that are not in the click know what I mean.

Anonymous said...

11:08AM---

So, what you're saying is:

If a white person disagrees with a black, then it is racially motivated?

And...

If a black person disagrees with
a white person, then it is NOT racially motivated...But
STILL the white person's is wrong, and is STILL a racist?

Anonymous said...

12:24--

I think I know what you mean. To be in "the" click at
Washington school, the parents' have to be in a certain income bracket $$$$.

Anonymous said...

Someone, either Joyce Parker, or one of her followers, got upset because a comment was made about her.

Anonymous said...

IF she doesn't want anyone to make a comment about her, then maybe she shouldn't be making comments to the news media and having it in the paper, for everyone to see.

Anonymous said...

The Hazen Foundation (www.hazenfoundation) did not approve Joyce Parkers' grant for the year 2009, for Citizens for a Better Greenville. Perhaps, she got her funding, if any, from Southern Echo, Inc., out of Jackson.

Southern Echo (www.southernecho) states on the website:

Southern Echo is a leadership development, education and training organization working to develop effective accountable grassroots leadership in the Africian-American communities in rural Mississippi and the surrounding region through comprehensive training and technical assistance programs.

Southern Echo's underlying goal is to empower local communities through effective community organized work, in order to create a process through which community people can build the broad-based organizations necessary to hold the POLITICAL, economic, educational, and environmental systems ACCOUNTABLE to the needs and interest of the Africian American community.

So, who was held accountable for the fight yesterday at THE school?

Anonymous said...

Delta Democrat Times 8/28/2009

School Board Approved Budget
Eric Solomon DDT Staff Writer

Greenville-Members of the Greenville Public School District Board of Trustees passed a new budget for the 2009-2010 school year Tuesday.

With school just around the corner, the board approved the combined budget of $59,413,791 for the year ending 6/30/2010.

The largest portion of the fund,
$31,705,003 was allocated for instruction. Also, members voted to move $2.5 million in special revenue funds to the board's capital improvvement fund. It can
be used for projects for the next 5 years.

Dr. Harvey Franklin, superintendent, requested schoolss make future positions available to
the board in a well-organized list. He said the board needed to avoid over-hiring and other problems.

The board ended by approving a $2,000 recruitment bonus for new, qualified hires in several undisclosed areas.

CITIZENS OF A BETTER GREENVILLE,
EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR, JOYCE PARKER,
WHO ARRIVED AT THE MEETING IN IT'S FINAL MINUTES, SAID THE GROUP IS CONCERNED ABOUT TRANSPARANCY UNDER THE NEW SUPERINTENDENT.

"WE WANT TO HAVE A DIALOGUE," PARKER SAID.

"WE WANT TO DO MORE THAN REACT TO DECISIONS. WE WANT TO KNOW HOW THINGS HAPPEN AND DISCUSS THEM."

------------

Sounds to me like, Joyce and the superintendent had a "dialogue" about yesterday's fight, and decided to "sweep it under the rug"!

Anonymous said...

School budget of $59,413,791 divided by 6,200 children equals = $9,582.87 per child! I think that amount would pay any tuition for any private school in Mississippi!! Maybe we should have vouchers!

PS Head Start Budget $9,320,408 divided by 1,200 children = $7,767 per child!!!!!!!!!! Do they even have certified teachers??

Anonymous said...

No, I don't think that Head Start does have certified teachers.

Elementary teachers are normally
certified for grades K-8, but I think that changed when they got the 4 yr old Pre-K pgogram.

Jr. High and High school teachers are certified to teach grades 7-12 or either 8-12.

The only certification Head Start could have would be in pre-school or day care?

Anonymous said...

Before Obama, they had about 1700
students in the Washington D.C. area using the
vouchers, but HE put an end to ALL of that.

Maybe, that's what happened to Agape's private school-they never did get the vouchers.

Anonymous said...

So, THE Greenville Public School District FINALLY
enforced their "zero tolerance" policy concerning fights!

They seemingly talk out BOTH sides of the mouth.

They state "out one side of the mouth" that they DO have "zero tolerance" concerning fights.

And then, they state "out the other side of the mouth" that every child is entitled to a public school education.

Oh, yeah, and then they "blow it out their ear", that they are trying to reduce the drop-out rate.

Cut the bull.

Every child is entitled to a public education, IF and ONLY IF, he attends school regularly, studies hard, and behaves while there.

If the child does not behave, the other children can not learn, and the teacher can not do her/his job and teach, with the continuous disruptions.

Expell them, let them drop out, whatever. When mama's check starts getting cut because her child does not attend school, then maybe she'll do something.

Anonymous said...

Poor Dr. Franklin.....He just simply had NO idea what he was getting into. Good luck because you are going to definitely EARN your big check. Just hope you can make it for one year. GPS is HOPELESS.

Anonymous said...

Greenville is HOPELESS.

Anonymous said...

Greenville needs CHANGE. Greenville needs Obama! NOT

Anonymous said...

Yes, HIS first year (if he makes it the WHOLE year) WILL be tough.

He's NEW and ALL of the STUDENTS,
PARENTS, and yes, the "so called
advocate for the parents, the ONE AND ONLY, JOYCE PARKER know it.

And mark my word...every dang one of them will TRY
him to just see what he's made of.

HE should have made arrests when the FIRST fight occurred.

The School Board Meetings are public, but when he has a meeting with his principals, they are NOT opened to
the public---not even to Joyce Parker!

If she shows up again to a non-public meeting with staff ONLY, then he should not hesitate to ask her to leave. She has done it before and was told to leave.

She will try to run over him.

Anonymous said...

Where is THE Mayor in all of this? SILENT as usual.

Anonymous said...

Well, "supposedly", Sunday at the park, both groups or gangs threatened each other.

I guess, the reason she is so silent is because she's
worried that now the City Council will assign body guards to the gangs! LOL!

She's lying low, with her "paid for by the City" personal assignment of 5 or 7 or how ever many bodyguards.

No, she won't say a dang word!

Anonymous said...

THE school will hold it's second public forum since school has started. Let's just sit back and
see how many of these parents and the other parents, show up for the regularly scheduled PTSA
meetings for the remainder of the school year.

A couple of the elementary schools have a good "turn out" for the PTSA meetings, but usually the only attendees are the GPSD employees that have students enrolled at the various schools.

Anonymous said...

Wasn't there an article in last week's DDT about gangs?

Anonymous said...

And WHEN did the Greenville Public Schools designate Joyce Parker as their spokesperson to the media in Jackson, MS?

Come on, Henry, Harvey,or whatever your name is,
step up to the plate and run your school district.

Anonymous said...

This should be aired on the local radio and television 3 times a day for
a week. Maybe then some of us would wake up and smell the coffee.
Copy and paste this website in your search tool. Just listen to the first 4 minutes and make up your own mind.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oE3YBwRnF2c

Anonymous said...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oE3YBwRnF2c

WOW!!!! This man has hit the nail on the head. I am so glad I listened to this man. He needs to be heard by all. He certainly enlightened me. I had no idea that they felt this way. If you haven't seen this please copy and paste this in your browser and hit enter. You will be amazed.

Anonymous said...

Can't find it. What's the man's name or either the name of the video. Need more info.

Anonymous said...

Ha,,, The white man aint going to stand up to nothing! We dont stick together like that anymore.

Anonymous said...

Third District Attorny Bob Levy has recused himself and his office from the prosecution of GRAMBLIN,LA
MAYOR, MARTHA ANDRUS on malfesance in office charges.

State Attorney General Buddy Caldwell has appointed 7th. District Attorney Brad Burget to prosecute the case.

Burget was out of the office Wednesday and not available for comment.

District Attorneys do not have to provide a reason for a
recusal, but according to documents filed by Levy's office, he requested the recusal because one or more assistant district attorneys possibly would be called to testify.

According to the Rules of Professional Conduct, it would be improper for the district attorney or assistant district attorney to handle the case if they were called to testify.

State police arrested ANDRUS on July 7, 2009 and she was charged with two counts each of unauthorized use of a moveable and malfeasance in office. She is accused of using town funds to reimburse two employees for bail bonds following their arrests by Grambling police. ANDRUS was released from Lincoln Parish Detention Center on a $5,000 bond.

The town's Board of Alderman has also requested a restraining order and monetary damages against ANDRUS in 3rd District Court, but a ruling on that cas has been delayed because the board's attorney was disqualified.

Governor Bobby Jindal has called ANDRUS to resign, but she has said she will "absolutely not" resign.

Mayor Martha Andrus of Gramblng, LA. serves on the Executive Committee for the National Conference of
Black Mayors as the Historian.

Anonymous said...

Hummmm. Sounds like Shutupimthemayordontaskanyquestions.

Anonymous said...

Go to bing.com's official site.

Key in: Citizens for a Better Greenville.

Look at the first entry entitled:

...Hazen...Newsroom....

Notice the date (1/4/2004)

Keep reading and 2007 is mentioned.!

bull...bull...bull...bull...bull.
bull...bull...and more bull!

Anonymous said...

watch out drivers--barney fife is on colorado pulling people over as they are taking their kids to school. it's easier to catch speeders than drug dealers.

Anonymous said...

8:36---End of the month, gotta' meet their quota!

Let's see now... said...

Where was our Mayor last night at the GPS meeting about the violence? I did not see her in the auditorium.

Anonymous said...

My dear Mr. Michael McNeece, you can write a letter to
the editor (of the DDT) every day if you want to and STILL the parents won't pay it any attention.

WHY NOT?

Because:

1. You don't have the respect of the parents or staff.

2. You have been with the Greenville School District for ONLY three years (this is the beginning of the fourth year.)

3. In three years you have been at THREE different schools.

4. Prior to coming to Greenville, you were at Riverside for one year.

5. Prior to that you (I lost count!), you were with
several different school districts in the Tupelo area.

6. You move around a lot...going from job to job...school district to school district. Hmmmmm.

7. You were criticized at Riverside
School by the parents because you didn't "handle" a certain "knife on the school bus" incident.

8. You are a Teachers' Union Rep.

9. You "sucked up" to the last Superintendent, and now you're trying to do it again. Didn't you and Estes Taplin both get a raise at the same board meeting? Hmmmmm.

10. You might be from Tupelo, but you certainly ain't Elvis or Oprah!

Maybe, David Wolfe, Mary Ann Griffin or Reva Pree could write a letter to the editor. All three are well respected by staff and parents.

Anonymous said...

To 4:51 post

If she had gone to the meeting....then she would have
had one of her personal body guards
...and then.....poo poo would have really hit the fan!?!

Anonymous said...

I'm just curious.

Why is Debra Reeves the principal at the Greenville-Weston campus?

She was a computer teacher at the
Weston campus. Then, she became the
Special Education Director. After about two or three
years, she went to an elementary school, Trigg, as the principal.

Oh, yeah, that's right. Joyce Parker started out as an advocate for the parents of Special Education students....and Debra Reeves was the SPED director at the time....and Hmmmmmmmm.

Anonymous said...

Was Monday's fight "for real" and was it just ANOTHER one of Greenville Public Schools' "staged"
performances?

You know, those "unions" are so-called lobbyist and "plan" or "stage" a lot of crap, just to show their political interests!

Yes, even in little ole' Greenville, Mississippi! Been doing it for years.

Anonymous said...

OR was it just ANOTHER.......oops!
not and

Anonymous said...

SO WHAT HAPPENED LAST NIGHT AT THE BIG MEETING? Nothing about it was on the news.

Anonymous said...

Are you a Democrat, a Republican, or a Redneck?


Here is a little test that will help you decide.


The answer can be found by posing the
following question:


You're walking down a deserted street with your wife and two small children.

Suddenly, an Islamic Terrorist with
a huge knife comes around the corner, locks eyes with you, screams obscenities, praises Allah, raises the knife, and charges at you.

You are carrying a Colt Model 1911 45 cal. automatic pistol , and you are an expert shot.

You have mere seconds before he reaches you and your family.

What do you do?
................................................................


THINK CAREFULLY AND THEN SCROLL DOWN:

Democrat's Answer :

Well, that's not enough information to answer the question!
Does the man look poor or oppressed?
Have I ever done anything to him that
would inspire him to attack?
Could we run away?
What does my wife think?

What about the kids?
Could I possibly swing the gun like a club
and knock the knife out of his hand?
What does the law say about this situation?
Does the pistol have appropriate safety built into it?

Why am I carrying a loaded gun anyway, and what kind of message does this send to society and to my children?
Is it possible he'd be happy with just killing me?
Does he definitely want to kill me, or would he be content just to wound me?
If I were to grab his knees and hold on, could my family get away while he was stabbing me?
Should I call 9-1-1?
Why is this street so deserted?
We need to raise taxes, have it painted and weeded daily and make this a happier, healthier street. That would discourage such behavior.
This is all so confusing!
I need to debate this with some friends for a few days and try to come to a consensus.


.........................................................................

Republican's Answer:

BANG!



.....................................................................

Redneck's Answer:


BANG!
BANG! BANG! BANG! BANG! BANG! BANG! BANG!

BANG !
Click...... (Sounds of reloading)

BANG! BANG! BANG! BANG! BANG! BANG!

BANG! BANG!
BANG! Click


Daughter:
'Nice grouping, Daddy! Were those the Winchester Silver Tips or Hollow Points?! '


Son:
'Can I shoot the next one?!'


Wife:
'You ain't taking that thang to the Taxidermist!'






--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Anonymous said...

If you enjoyed the previous post.....you MIGHT be a redneck.

Anonymous said...

The Mayor has pictures of her self talking with Clinton and Fran on her facebook

Anonymous said...

Does she have a picture of Mayor
Martha Andrus of Grambling, LA?

Anonymous said...

Hilary is INVITED to the National Black Conference of Mayors.

Jessie Jackson has CONFIRMED his attendance to the
National Black Conference of Mayors.

THE president of Nigeria is INVITED to the National Black Conference of Mayors.

I don't know if Martha Andrus will be attending or not! :)

Anonymous said...

Did you see what that crazy Mayor had in the paper this week, in Tuesday's paper? It is not online; but the same crap is on this site:

http://www.wxvt.com/global/story.asp?s=11161184

She is still spouting about a grant that does not exist (trying to make herself look like she cares) and now accusing the volunteer person as the cause of the loss of the grant that does not exist.

Proof!!!! This woman is delusional! I hope she gets what is coming to her...and soon...but it won't be a grant! :>)

Anonymous said...

What volunteer person.?

Anonymous said...

The volunteer person could only mean Jennifer Jones. She has been fighting to fix up and save the city pool all along and wrote a letter in the DDT about the Mayor and her fake grant for the pool repair, trying to look like she was doing something. She was, she was trying to make herself look good!

Anonymous said...

TO: 6:51 PM Post
(Democrat, Republican or Redneck?)

An illegal alien in Polk County, Florida who got pulled over in a routine traffic stop ended up "executing" the deputy who stopped him.

The deputy was shot 8 times, including once behind his right ear, at close range. Another deputy was wounded and a police dog was killed.

A state-wide manhunt ensued.

The murderer was found hiding in a wooded are with his gun.

After he shot at them, SWAT team officers opened fire and hit the guy 68 times.

Now, here's the kicker....

Naturally, the liberal media went nuts and asked why they shot the poor, undocumented immigrant 68 times.

Sheriff Grady Judd told the Orlando
Sentinel: (talk about an all-time classic answer)

"Because that's all the ammunition we had."

**********************************
Gotta' admire a man for being honest!

***********************************
Best Quote of 2008!

Anonymous said...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oE3YBwRnF2c


We need to tell this guy whats going on here in G'ville He would straighten our mayor out.

Anonymous said...

Forget the city pool!!! Put us a nice one in Avon!!

Anonymous said...

I'll just be damned! ANOTHER fight
at the Greenville-Weston campus,
the day following the 2nd. meeting!

Anonymous said...

St. Joe had homecoming tonight. Hundreds of people were there. I saw one police car and no policeman. All went smooth and well. It was just lovely. Greenville High must have had the ENTIRE police force including the SWAT team and the EXECUTIVE SECURITY there guarding her majesty from threats.

Anonymous said...

To 9:57 PM Post:

And the bottom line is....they (the students at St. JOE)were raised right.

Anonymous said...

Yes, they were.

Anonymous said...

The Greenville-Weston students'
parents can't USE the excuse of being poor. Even
low-income people can have HIGH personal standards,values, and morals. Money is not the issue. A low-income person CAN be honest, decent, law-abiding and well behaved.


Instead of teaching them Black History, maybe
they need to study American History. A hundred years ago, almost everyone was poor, black and white, but, surprisingly, they had values and less crime. Hmmmmmm.

Anonymous said...

TO PATRICK ERVIN:

You wrote a column in the DDT,
about THE fight at the Greenville-Weston campus. Additionally, you mentioned that in 1983, a student
was shot and killed at school.

Sorry, but, I don't remember that and I worked there.

Anonymous said...

But, I do remember that Mr. Cummins, the Math teacher caught the homecoming queen and her football playing boyfriend in the teachers' restroom, having sex.

Homecoming queen's sister married..
Jerry Rice.

Anonymous said...

Obama asks moms to return to school.

But, I don't think that he intended for them to
continually go to THE high school...because their child
was in trouble, in the principal's
office and later sent to jail for fighting. LOL!

Anonymous said...

The fact that the GHS/W school has to have security guards at all, says it all in today's world of public education and in some cases private school education.

The only "security" that I recall growing up in my public schools was the Principal, the Coaches and the teachers. That was more than enough to keep the kids in line back then....and of course a few calls to parents to handle it at home never hurt either!

Anonymous said...

Did THE mayor go out of town this week, possibly around September 22nd. or 23rd?

Anonymous said...

to 4:01 post. Who knows where the heck she ever is.....one thing we do know, SHE IS NEVER WHERE SHE IS SUPPOSE TO BE....and that's at work.

Anonymous said...

If SHE didn't go out of town, then
why did SHE lie and "twitter" that SHE had talked to
Clinton at Clinton's Global Conference about Greenville's water and "supposedly" HE is going to help!?P.L.E.A.S.E.!

Anonymous said...

I happen to be a 1983 graduate of Greenville High and there are several mistakes posted above! The homecoming queen for MY class was Doris Williams, not Antionette Mitchell (aka Toni,the sister-in-law of Jerry Rice)! Also, there was no one shot and killed there that year or any of the time I was at GHS. Greenville High School (not Greenville-Weston) was a totally different place. I can say all of this with absolute certainty. You see, I am a white guy that was involved with a lot of school activites. GHS was not a bad school then. Mr. Cummins did not teach math, he taught Trig and Calculus. We did not have any metal detectors or security guards. What has happened since then is tragic. The city officials that all of YOU elect appoint people to positions that have no idea how to run schools, hospitals, etc. You all get what you deserve! I can honestly say (and not regretfully) that I no longer live in Greenville! If you do not take control of YOUR city and elect people that know what they are doing, it is only going to get worse. So what are YOU, the citizens of Greenville, going to do about it???

Anonymous said...

9:16 pm post...Oh, so now she's best friends with Clinton? Ha, Ha. She has also told people that she and Oprah are good friends and that Oprah has HER cell number programmed in her (Oprah) phone! She wishes!!! Oh if we could all just be so IMPORTANT.

Anonymous said...

THE mayor is a liar!

SHE lies!

Anonymous said...

oh wait..that is rude..true, totally true...but rude!LOL

Anonymous said...

But, it (post 10:48AM) wasn't YELLED out, while she was giving a speech on national televison? How could it
be rude? It was simply a statement of truth. LOL

Anonymous said...

Maybe Oprah can implement the same water well program that she has in Africia to clean up Greenville'
s water. Let's ask her friend, THE Mayor to ask her for assistance. Ha!

Anonymous said...

THE mayor is running out of people
(contacts) to ask for help.

1. Obama
2. Bennie
3. Thad
4. Clinton
5. Oprah
6. Daddy

Anonymous said...

to 3:39 post...But like she said herself in the DDT "Sometimes it's better to do nothing at all".

Anonymous said...

Well, there is a talent she has mastered! NOTHING to the highest level!haha

Anonymous said...

Well, if THE mayor's postion requires that one does nothing at all, then why don't we run in the next election. Just think of ALL the traveling we can do. I'll go to the travel agency tomorrow to get some travel brochures! I've always wanted to go to Paris and
Australia. LOL!

Anonymous said...

Rhode Island, Vermont and Wisconsin would be nice, also. People in the Delta don't really
visit those areas, it's kinda' "off the beaten path".

I'll just say I'm trying to get industries to locate in Greenville.

I'll eat cheese in Wisconsin and stay in a bed and
breakfast inn in Vermont;it will really be a nice vacation.

Anonymous said...

...."Sometimes it's better to do nothing at all."

Is SHE trying to get on welfare?

Or will SHE try to "draw" unemployment when her term is up?

Anonymous said...

I'll bet on Unemployment.

Big Mama said...

Oh,, I am not so sure the Mayor is lieing about every thing,, She does have prof of her contact with the former pres clinton on her facebook.

Anonymous said...

Her contact??????

Even Bill Clinton is not THAT hard up! heh heh

Anonymous said...

Clinton likes to get on (or off!)
women's FACEbooks! LOL

But, I don't think that THE mayor
even owns a blue dress!

Anonymous said...

This information on WABG tonight about The Bill Clinton Foundation backing Greenville to clean up our water and to make Greenville a "model" for all communities worldwide ain't about our water. It's about the National Democratic Party backing Ms. Shutupimthemayordontaskanyquestions for Governor of MS and then as first female President of the USA. GOD HELP US ALL.

Anonymous said...

Ain't no way!

Anonymous said...

I believe about as much of that crap story of her and Clinton as I believe that in fact there was a pool grant from MDA....!!

Her priorities are so screwed up. All she can push is the brown water?? Is that all we need?? Will that be the magic moment of progress and recovery, when my faucet runs clear water?? Oh halleleuja!!!...saints be praised! Yeah right!!

How about this list Mayor, see if you can make these first to push:

Jobs
Jobs
Jobs
Increase GPD and improve salary and qualifications to get the best.

Support your city in activities to show you care.
Jobs
Jobs
Take actions to improve our community and its quality of life for all.
Jobs
Instead of running to Clinton with brown water, how about getting the powers to be, to bring industry and guess what....more jobs!!!
Education, education, training and more education!!

Anonymous said...

I would like to respond to 6:39AM. As far as jobs. Exactly what type of jobs do you think the people of Washington County can perform? The new distribution center opening next month has been looking for about 30 drug free, literate workers. From what we have heard, it has been a challenge!

Anonymous said...

IF a person is drug-free and literate and WANTS to work is the answer. Even an assistant teacher with THE school system is only required to have a high school diploma and pass a test equivalient
to an 8Th. grader!

Anonymous said...

Maybe, just maybe...if THE mayor started working
FULL time, every Monday thru Friday, from 8:00AM to 5:00PM, in GREENVILLE, without ALL of the excessive, unnecessary out-of-town trips...then maybe, just maybe,...SHE could set a good example as a role model for THE citizens of Greenville...and THEY too will work! Discipline starts at home!

Anonymous said...

THE mayor is obsessed with brown water. Or is she
just obsessed with...brown?!

Anonymous said...

"Sometimes it is best just to do
nothing. Trying to get the "welfare" vote in the governor's race!

Anonymous said...

9:49 post....Yes they have been digently looking for 30 plus office workers and fork lift drivers. They have taken several hundred applications over a 2 month period and they still have openings. You are right, people can't pass the drug test.

Anonymous said...

CLARION LEDGER 9/28/2009 12:38 PM
by Gary Pettus

Dozens of potential jurors out in Hughes trial

Canton- Of the 169 potential jurors summoned to hear the capital murder trial of a former schoolteacher accused of killing a pregnant woman, 70 were eliminated by noon today.

Circuit Judge William Chapman said jury selection may take better part of this week.

Carla Hughes,28,a former Jackson Public Schools teacher, is accused of killing Avis Banks,27,and her unborn child on Nov.29.,2006,in what police suspect was a love triangle involving Banks' fiance.

Chapman said testimony at the earliest would begin late this week and the trial should take at least a week or more.

Anonymous said...

9:49AM and 1:00PM

The police are so busy, supposedly,
protecting THE mayor, that they can't do anything about the drug problem in Greenville.

Or does Daddy Vic get a "kick back"
from drug dealers? Hmmmmmm.

Anonymous said...

hudson said she is taking the day off,, she has been working 16 hour days for the last week

Anonymous said...

Working 16 hours a day for the last week, doing what...nothing ?

IF SHE did work 16 hours a day for the last week,... it was only to make up for the time she missed ...when she was in Florida during the boil water alert!
P..L..E..A..S..E..!!!

Anonymous said...

Working 16 hour days partying it up in New York and Washington DC. She needs to take time off to chat with "daddy" about their new plot to scheme everyone.

Anonymous said...

"Oh, Daddy, Daddy,please help me.
I don't have ANY friends.
No one likes me.
Even my husband of nine years has gone.
But, Daddy, Daddy,YOU still love me, don't you?"

Anonymous said...

She doesn't make friends because she tries to "screw and control" everyone. Daddy paid off the husband to leave because he wasn't contributing anything to the marriage. It's a blessing in a disguise. Abe just doesn't know it yet.

Anonymous said...

This "daddy/daughter" relationship seems mighty unhealthy to me.

Anonymous said...

DADDY probably has a more politically involved man picked out as her future husband. This time next year, before the Governor'selection, SHE will be married again. Remember, SHE has to 'draw in' votes from HIM, because SHE can't get them on her own.

Anonymous said...

Abe is literate.
Abe is drug-free.
Abe can get a job at the new distribution center!

Anonymous said...

NOW WE KNOW WHAT SHE HAS BEEN UP TO!LOL

http://www.1037theq.com/cc-common/news/sections/newsarticle.html?feed=118702&article=6067322
Serial Burglar Captured

The arrest of a woman in Pelham may have cracked a series of crimes
By Neal Vickers
Saturday, September 26, 2009

Heather Hudson is accused of a string of more than two dozen burglaries. She and an accomplice were arrested in Pelham two weeks ago for burglarizing a home there. Investigators then discovered she also had property from a burglary in Tuscaloosa County. Hudson and another woman are now accused of robbing homes in Tuscaloosa County since July. They targeted homes at random and investigators have already solved 26 burglary investigations and think she and two cohorts may be linked to others.

Anonymous said...

Can you count?

10+4+9=23 GPSD students arrested for fighting in one week's time!

Thank God for weekends or the count would be higher.

Anonymous said...

Buy more handcuffs!

There is an expected weather change
and fights "broke out" whenever the
temperature goes up or down suddenly!

Anonymous said...

Fill up "juvie", ADA (Average Daily Attendance) will go down and GPS will be hurting for money. $$$$ from the State is based on ADA.

Anonymous said...

I wish the Gov would have a cash for Trailers.. So I could sale mine!!

Anonymous said...

5:58PM POST

You are absolutely right about the ADA. That's why they want to send students to the Alternative School(used to be housed at Garrett-Hall,don't know where it is now)instead of expelling them....they (the students)are still "carried" on their base schools' roll and STILL included
in the ADA count and $$$$$$. Same thing with an "overaged program". Hell, they can even be out for six weeks on "maternity leave" and still be counted present. Money isn't always the answer to everything.

P.S. The average person does not even know what ADA is....so you must know about schools!

P.S.S. It is required by law that the local social services
offices send a print-out to the schools to verify that students are enrolled and attending school regularly (example: Food stamps, welfare, SSI)

Anonymous said...

7:21 post....You are correct in all three paragraphs.

Anonymous said...

There's a saying that's popular with anyone that is
affiliated with THE schools:

"It takes until about mid-October to get rid of ALL of the "disciplinary problemed students" and the ones that really just don't want to be there. After they are "culled out", the remaining ones behave and study."

This "saying" has held true for the past 30 years.

And then, second semester, with the enrollment of
"new" students, and again, after spring break, you "cull them again"!

9 out of 10 "new" enrollees got
expelled from their previous school. The other 1 moved with their whole family and relocated because of their parents' jobs.

Anonymous said...

Heather.... Oh Heather.... we know you read the Scoop, so why don't you just step down? You don't even have the support of black folks. You are a disgrace to your office and should just move on to another scam. You could have made a difference in Greenville, but you chose to be "black". You are more racist than any "non-black" I know.

Please take your "talents" elsewhere before Greenville becomes the laughing stock of the nation... instead of just the state!

Anonymous said...

...laughing stock of Greenville beacuse the former SPED
director,yes, the current principal at Greenville-Weston High, taught HER and ABE both when they were high school students! LOL

Anonymous said...

We really need to get James Lowe,
THE mayor of Leland, MS. to come and "straighten out" our town! LOL

And he'll certainly do it, if we ask!

Anonymous said...

Will we have an election this year? if so, who will be running and what is the possibility of getting some new faces around the table?

Anonymous said...

Don't know when the next election is. Remember, the
media does NOT release THAT information!

Anonymous said...

What did THE school administrators learn today at the training on school violence?

Anonymous said...

In the past, Greenville High school
had ONE principal and TWO assistant principals and about 1200 students.

How many assistant principals do they have now? At one point, they had FOUR!

Get rid of the excessive assistant
principals (administrators!) and
hire more security guards. You could get 2 security guards per each assistant principal!

Teachers did NOT attend college to learn how to "break up" a fight. They are disignated for instruction ONLY.

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