Thursday, February 19, 2009

No Easy Answers!

Lincoln was no saint nor hero, just a politician! said...

All this hero worship of Lincoln is quite disconcerting, if you know the facts. An educated man like Obama might want to study his "Hero" a bit closer! Check out the web site and quotes below to learn the facts and not read more myths.

-- Abraham Lincoln in speeches at Peoria, Illinois ....

My first impulse would possibly be to free all slaves and send them to Liberia to their own native land. But a moment's reflection would convince me that this would not be best for them. If they were all landed there in a day they would all perish in the next ten days, and there is not surplus money enough to carry them there in many times ten days. What then? Free them all and keep them among us as underlings. Is it quite certain that this would alter their conditions?

Free them and make them politically and socially our equals? My own feelings will not admit of this, and if mine would, we well know that those of the great mass of whites will not. We cannot make them our equals.

A system of gradual emancipation might well be adopted, and I will not undertake to judge our Southern friends for tardiness in this matter."

Abraham Lincoln later said, in discussing the options of colonizing them with segregated areas of Texas, Mississippi and South Carolina: "If we turn 200,000 armed Negroes in the South, among their former owners, from whom we have taken their arms, it will inevitably lead to a race war. It cannot be done.

The Negroes must be gotten rid of." Ben Butler responded to this by saying: "Why not send them to Panama to dig the canal?" Lincoln was delighted with this suggestion, and asked Butler to consult Seward at once. Only a few days later, John Wilkes Booth assassinated Lincoln and one of his conspirators wounded Seward.

It is fairly common knowledge that Lincoln was not the "great emancipator" as history claims. He had very mixed emotions about slavery, not so much as to its inherent "wrongness", but more with respect to how to correct a problem without creating chaos.

Basically, it was a political hot potato which had to be dealt with very delicately in order to appease two warring segments of our country. Obviously, the immorality of owning another human being was not a difficult position to defend. The quandary was what to do with these "disowned possessions".

Lincoln's strength was in considering the rights of both sides in this debate. It was very difficult to solve a problem that was so morally ill-conceived as slavery, but he knew that to do nothing would perpetuate a war that was very unpopular on both sides.

Lincoln's death came at a time in which history might have been rewritten. For Lincoln, it was the "problem" of the Negros that needed to be "gotten rid of"... and quickly in order to prevent national anarchy.

Presidents Lincoln and Obama share one very astounding similarity in their presidential challenges. No matter what decisions they make, many Americans will suffer and it will take years for this country to recover from some incredibly horrific decisions made by their predecessors.



Anonymous said...

Pres Washington never chopped down a cherry tree neither!!

kennard said...

yes, we should have learned to pick our own cotton.

unhappy Lincoln ending said...

All this hero worship from Obama, would someone tell him the "rest of the Lincoln story"??? It is not a happy ending! Sheesh!

Greenville on National news said...

Greenville Mayor Hudson is going to be on Fox News at 5:30 and on CNN at 7:30, Friday 2-20-09.

I just heard it on the 5 o'clock news on WABG. She will be talking about the stimulus package and how Greenville will use the money.

She was one of few Mayors over the entire nation invited to DC by Obama people to discuss the Stimulus package and how it can help cities. (I guess all that brown nosing support and probably campaign funds from Daddy, paid off!)

This I have to see!!!

Anonymous said...

Well if Haley Barbour decides Ms does not want the money where does that leave our mayor
What a joke Heather Hudson is and a embarrasment to what is left of Greenville.
Always chasing free money : just like most of the population in Greenville. Just send me a check on the first and some of that tax return at the end of the year and to hell with a job.
Dam Greenville use to be a great place to live !

That's show business!LOL said...

The Mayor was a no show on both channels....awww, she got left on the cutting room sad!LOL

Obamam Tax cut joke said...

News Flash:

"The president said his signature two-year "Making Work Pay" tax break will affect 95 percent of working families, and, in six weeks' time, a typical family will start taking home at least $65 more every month.

I am so excited! *sarcasm*, if a typical family is $65 a month, being just two of us here in my household (if we qualify), ours will most likely be half that amount....$34.50...oh my, where shall we spend this windfall?????...oh wait......divided by 4 weeks in a month, that works out to be $8.63 per week....GOOD GRIEF! that won't even buy us two McDonalds combos!!!!!! SHEESH....who is he kidding???? If I have to be screwed, I would at least like to enjoy it!LOL

Anonymous said...

Heather was on CNN last night! Although the media pinpointed Greenville, North Carolina on the map when she began speaking, our Mayor did manage to say "Greenville, Mississippi" about 10 times in 5 minutes. We will really look stupid if Barbour decides to refuse the money because Mayor Hudson said that in "Greenville, Mississippi, we already know how the money will be spent". And I am sure that she does!

Anonymous said...

You guys are bitter and sad, I understand why things are like they are?

Anonymous said...

Who transposed Obama's likeness over Lincoln?

You are mistaken said...

Not bitter and sad, angry and frustrated!!!

Anonymous said...

I dont know about you but it eats me up for a black man to say we are a coward country when it comes to talking about race!! When every time you turn on the TV there is a black person suing, because they are offended for being call black!

Anonymous said...

Hello people how is everyone its so good to be back. I hope everyone is doing well. Well i see the subject has changed a little from bashing Mr Ray L. Humphreys and (Mississippi's Next Great Hospital) Drmc to the state of greenville area and the surrounding economy which should be on the forefront. Well I was catching up and looking at older posting's on here and i saw where Mr. Humphreys and DRMC want to build an entrance of some sort to a field to hopefully get other business's to follow. Well they must have that FIELD OF DREAMS MENTALITY (IF YOU BUILD IT THEY WILL COME).I also saw where some employees were really having a smashing good time at a party which is awesome. Well there is nothing much on here about DRMC so either people are tired of talking about them or some type of improvement must be happening. Hopefully improvement. Well i sure do hate to fan the fire but i have some news. I was just wondering if DRMC let its employee's consume alcoholic beverages on the clock. You see i have first hand account of one of their SMURFS(Blue uniformed employee which i think was a Emt) doing such a thing. Oh yes twice once at a casino and once at a local pub, bar, eatery. There was no name tag visible but lots of alcohol flowing. I sure hope that this person does not come to pick me up if i need their services. Do not get me wrong there is nothing wrong with drinking hell i do a little, myself for my heart but to do it while at work ( I Presume this person was at work since they were in uniform and if not on the job how dumb can you be to do that in uniform) is down right wrong. They are suppose to be professionals and they have lives in their hands, this is not acceptable. So people keep your eyes tuned to your surroundings. Do let me say this i am not trying to so much bash DRMC or their Ambulance Service, See i have experienced the ambulance on several occasions and from my experience the emt's were very nice and professional. So keep your eyes peeled people. Look and listen and you never know what you might see.

It's ME It's ME It's Gomer P.

SMURF said...

Yep Gomer P. the subject of DRMC is dead here, everyone is sick of hearing all the crap there. So there is another website dedicated to the people stuck on the subject of drmc.

Thanks for stopping by

Anonymous said...

did anyone besides me think the article in sunday's ddt about "gifted" students was humorous? i guess at public school if 1)you want to go to school and 2)you acted interested and ask questions, you are considered gifted. well i guess the entire student population at ws would qualify as gifted then. I consider this normal for my children, not gifted. I guess the ddt needed something of local interest to write about. this comment was not about drmc so that should make some of you happy.

Heads up - Greenville wish list for stimulus money said...

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Projects in Greenville, Mississippi

Below are the "shovel-ready" projects for which this city submitted in the 2008 U.S. Conference of Mayors report. You can click on a project to read (and add to) its description. You can also discuss the project and vote on whether you believe it is critical or not.

The total cost of all the projects submitted by Greenville is $337,850,000

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